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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Questions about needling scars
« on: February 08, 2014, 07:44:35 PM »
I've been using your single needles for a little while and am happy to say I have seen improvement. It is my hope that since these scars are small that I will be able to get rid of them completely or at least come close to doing this. I have a few questions:
1) I needle very aggressively. I needle the scar a lot, trying to hit every single part of it, as well as a bit outside of it. I probably hit the same spots of the scar several times. I basically do it until I can't take it anymore in that area. All of my scars, even the ones on the nose, have either stayed the same or improved. However, I read somewhere that you should actually leave parts of the scar unneedled so the good cells can send stuff to the bad ones or something like that. Is this true? Should I not try to needle the entire scarred area?
2) At the moment, all I am doing is needling. I am not applying anything to them. How much of a difference does applying stuff like vit C and A make? Or copper peptides? I am concerned about the possible redness/irritation that could follow. But I do wonder if the results would be better and faster if I did apply something. And if so, what would you recommend? The infadolan stuff just seems like a moisturizer basically? How necessary is the retin a? That stuff I know can irritate my skin a lot. If I were to apply infadolan, how often would I apply it? And for the vitamin c, I understand it is about 2-3 times a week. In the instructions you say to apply vitamin c serum 4 days prior to needling...is that just that one night 4 days before you needle or do you apply it every day leading up to needling? Also, I understand that you need to strip the skin of oil before applying vitamin c. I stopped using all facial cleansers and that has definitely helped my acne. How would you suggest I go about getting rid of the oil prior to applying vitamin c? Could this be done with just a tissue or water or maybe those salicylic acid pads? And how would I get the vitamin c off of my face the next morning?
3) Is there anything that you recommend taking orally to help boost collagen production and scar remodeling? I am treating both indented and hypertrophic scars. I heard that 1g of vitamin C, 1g of MSM, and 5g of flaxseed oil a day helps. Currently I am taking fish oil, primrose oil, probiotics and a multivitamin that has 300mg vit C and 10,000 IU vit A total. I also get a lot of protein and amino acids which I heard helps.
4) Is it true that you should avoid rubbing or touching areas after you needle them? I saw somewhere that the new skin coming in is extremely fragile and rubbing the area can actually tear or break this down. I ask because many of my scars are on the nose where I frequently take a tissue and rub all the excess oil off because for some reason that area gets very oily. Also, I have indented scars right next to hypertrophic ones and apply pressure to the area 1-2 times a day to try to bring them down.
5) Speaking of hypertrophic scars, would I apply infadolan and vitamin c serum to them? Would it help/hurt my goal of trying to bring them down? For treating these scars I have just been stamping and needling them very aggressively, just like the indented scars, and apply pressure for 20-30 seconds 1-2 times a day.
A lot of questions, I know. I thank you in advance for taking the time to address them. I'll be happy to answer other peoples questions as to what I've been doing to get results...though I pretty much covered all of that in my questions.
1) I needle very aggressively. I needle the scar a lot, trying to hit every single part of it, as well as a bit outside of it. I probably hit the same spots of the scar several times. I basically do it until I can't take it anymore in that area. All of my scars, even the ones on the nose, have either stayed the same or improved. However, I read somewhere that you should actually leave parts of the scar unneedled so the good cells can send stuff to the bad ones or something like that. Is this true? Should I not try to needle the entire scarred area?
2) At the moment, all I am doing is needling. I am not applying anything to them. How much of a difference does applying stuff like vit C and A make? Or copper peptides? I am concerned about the possible redness/irritation that could follow. But I do wonder if the results would be better and faster if I did apply something. And if so, what would you recommend? The infadolan stuff just seems like a moisturizer basically? How necessary is the retin a? That stuff I know can irritate my skin a lot. If I were to apply infadolan, how often would I apply it? And for the vitamin c, I understand it is about 2-3 times a week. In the instructions you say to apply vitamin c serum 4 days prior to needling...is that just that one night 4 days before you needle or do you apply it every day leading up to needling? Also, I understand that you need to strip the skin of oil before applying vitamin c. I stopped using all facial cleansers and that has definitely helped my acne. How would you suggest I go about getting rid of the oil prior to applying vitamin c? Could this be done with just a tissue or water or maybe those salicylic acid pads? And how would I get the vitamin c off of my face the next morning?
3) Is there anything that you recommend taking orally to help boost collagen production and scar remodeling? I am treating both indented and hypertrophic scars. I heard that 1g of vitamin C, 1g of MSM, and 5g of flaxseed oil a day helps. Currently I am taking fish oil, primrose oil, probiotics and a multivitamin that has 300mg vit C and 10,000 IU vit A total. I also get a lot of protein and amino acids which I heard helps.
4) Is it true that you should avoid rubbing or touching areas after you needle them? I saw somewhere that the new skin coming in is extremely fragile and rubbing the area can actually tear or break this down. I ask because many of my scars are on the nose where I frequently take a tissue and rub all the excess oil off because for some reason that area gets very oily. Also, I have indented scars right next to hypertrophic ones and apply pressure to the area 1-2 times a day to try to bring them down.
5) Speaking of hypertrophic scars, would I apply infadolan and vitamin c serum to them? Would it help/hurt my goal of trying to bring them down? For treating these scars I have just been stamping and needling them very aggressively, just like the indented scars, and apply pressure for 20-30 seconds 1-2 times a day.
A lot of questions, I know. I thank you in advance for taking the time to address them. I'll be happy to answer other peoples questions as to what I've been doing to get results...though I pretty much covered all of that in my questions.
