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Dermarolling / Microneedling / New to dermarolling...very painful..question

« Last post by bullet875 on October 19, 2013, 11:43:47 PM »

Hi!

I'm new to derma rolling and have just started using a .5mm roller . I am rolling my face and neck to increase elasticity and decrease the only two wrinkles that I have (smile lines). I find rolling with eve this small roller to be very painful and am going to buy some numbing cream because I also want o use a 1mm and a 1.5 mm one in awhile,. My questions is: how many times do I roll over the same spot? The video that I saw said 6 to 8 times, but should it only be once horizontally and once vertically? I'm a little confused.

Thanks for the help!

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Infadolan experience thread

« Last post by Essie on October 19, 2013, 04:51:38 PM »

Thanks for all the comments here. To Fusion, you mentioned a good point about infadolan and cuts. I wasn't putting infadolan while stamping with 0.5 at first, but was just putting Retinol serum (not Retin A) to enhance its penetration. Sometimes I put infadolan after it and sometimes I don't. Lately I discovered that I was having a dark mark across my forehead, and the redness of the stamping doesn't go away the next day...when I applied infadolan straight away after stamping, there was no irritation, and no horizontal dark marks (on the wrinkles) where I stamped. I am doing exactly that now.

Another question re infadolan. Does anybody use it on the eyelids and where you put eyeshadow? Or only underneath and on crows feet? Look forward for an answer.

Last question. Layering. If I have a favourite eye cream or serum...do apply it first, especially around eye, then apply infadolan or you cant layer them? And if you layer them, and I believe Infadolan comes last as its greasier...how long should one wait for the eye cream to absorb?

Same goes for Vitamin C serum if I d like to use Vitamin c Serum first and Infadolan too!

Thank you very very much..

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Reccomendations Pictures attached

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 19, 2013, 03:36:17 PM »

I think your choice of buying a 1.5 mm dermastamp was great. Do not forget to stretch the skin with one hand and stamp with the other. The only problem is that according to my own experience (others may disagree), the area around the lips is the most painful on entire body and it is the only area where I have to use a numbing cream. The pain does get less as you continue stamping so the first "hit" is the most painful. You will see how it goes. Please send us followups!

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Tretinoin use on stretch marks just after dermastamping

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 19, 2013, 02:50:52 PM »

Your treatment routine is very good.

The type of reactions to Tretinoin are quite individual, just like the reactions to microneedling. We have customers who get lots of pinpoint bleeding when rolling/stamping with size 0.2 mm and we have those who do not bleed at all with size 2 mm, doing the same area of the body.

We have customers who stay red for weeks after for example stamping their stretch marks and also those that are almost back to normal a day after needing.

I once applied a 0.025% Tretinoin on my face right after rolling with a 0.2 mm dermaroller and I was suffering for hours with a burning face. My skin is not sensitive. Others have no problem doing the same.

No, unfortunately I cannot see any pattern in the improvement of stretch marks except for the fact that the worse the stretch marks look initially, the more obvious will be the improvement. Stretch marks that are smooth and "nice" to start with do not improve that much in comparison.

Related subject: https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Stretch-Marks-individual-needling

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Dermastamp plus sun exposure

« Last post by Essie on October 19, 2013, 01:55:35 PM »

Sarah. thank you very very much for your reply! I don't consider myself too sensitive to the sun. WHen I was young and even during my early thirties, I never suffered from pigmentation and always exposed myself to the sun, like sunbathing etc.

I will follow your advice, however, and should stop stamping and using Retin A (I knew about Retin A and sun) IF I know that I will be in a very hot country, going to the beach, etc. I only use REtin A for wrinkles and not for acne.

I have a feeling that the problem IS with the microcurrent...I don't use it the morning after I stamp, I allow a day so the redness of my stamping will go away.
Reason why I think its Nuface is because a have a small burning mark on my forehead...and although I apply the protective gel, it does appear 'slightly more red' everytime I use it...and the pigmentation is around the hairline, top forehead. Nowhere else on my face. Unfortunately I didn't find any information on the internet regarding Nuface and side effects, if any, its just my thoughts...

I have a few more questions but I will try to find the right thread for them. One small question is whether I can use my favourite eye cream at night UNDERNEATH the infadolan (I love both of them) and if so how much time I need to allow for layering... Also, should Infadolan be used ON EYELIDS or ONLY UNDERNEATH, ON CROWS FEET...I understand if I am out of subject here, would love it if you know the right link to a thread.

Thanks for your replies!
Best

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Reccomendations Pictures attached

« Last post by Mallon on October 19, 2013, 08:01:12 AM »

Hi Sarah what would you reccomend for this type of scarring on the upper lip? What type of scarring is it. I bought the 1.5 mm needle from your site but am yet to use it. I also have a selction of cps .

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Advice and products for treatment of hyperpigmentation and hypopigmentation

« Last post by fusion on October 17, 2013, 06:33:09 PM »

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: great customer service

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 06:05:17 PM »

Thank you - we do our best to charge fair prices. We're soon selling smaller dermastamps for 9 dollars and we recently lowered our prices for C60 because we recouped our initial investment in machines.

No, the single needle is not suitable because it is too long (1.8 mm) for the area you describe. Either use your Dermajet on the 0.2 mm length setting (please do not make a mistake and insert the 2 mm instead). Alternatively, we will soon have small dermastamps with 12 needles and they will come in all sizes. Buy a 0.5 mm one.

The Dermajet "hammers" the needles in with great force so I would stay with size 0.2 mm in that area.

Do not stamp closer to your eyes than the orbital bone, as I explained here (scroll down):

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/can-i-use-a-dermaroller-on-this-area-under-the-eye-%28pic-included%29/

About the availability of spare parts for the DermaJet: We only have needle cartridges. (A lot). If the DermaJet breaks we'll send a new one free of charge without the need to send back the old one.

We are working on developing our own, very sophisticated dermaneedling machine.

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Dermaroller and inflamation

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 06:02:09 PM »

If you currently have mild active acne on your face you can roll but do not roll if you have serious acne full of pus more or less all over your face.

Cesamaddict is right. Even though acne is not primarily caused by bacteria (it is in fact caused by excessive sebum production, clogging the pores), sometimes bacterial infections coexist in acne affected skin.

Dermarolling unclogs pores so it often prevents or helps acne and post acne spots but dermarolling can theoretically trigger acne flares in certain unfortunate individuals. You should do a small test patch to see how your skin reacts.

In your case, it is perhaps better to use a dermastamp, not a dermaroller. With a dermastamp you can target just the scars.

I hardly ever get emails saying dermarolling triggered acne so it happens rarely.

A few of our customers emailed me they got small bumps on the skin as a reaction to dermarolling but the bumps disappeared without a trace.

If you want to keep acne under control and unclog the pores, you can try our Tretinoin cream.

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Chicken pox scar

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 05:50:48 PM »

>lifts up, but 9/10 times the scar on the lifted skin is still inverted, if that makes sense?

Yes, it makes sense and it looks like your scars are so tightly tethered to the underlying structures that the pump is not enough. I think you should try a professionally performed subcision or a subcision followed by saline injections if you can find a doctor who performs it:

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/saline-injections-for-acne-scars/

(Or a subcision followed up with the suction method).

Maybe, as a result of chicken pox, the fat that lies right underneath the skin atrophied in certain chicken pox spots and the atrophied fat is the main cause of indentations.

I know you stamped with a 2 mm dermastamp and to be honest, I do not have better advice than the dermastamp and the pump.

You can try to stamp densely and then pump strongly RIGHT AFTER stamping and for two weeks.

I am sorry that microneedling did not significantly help in your case.