Previous bad experience with rolling but not with yours

[truvision]

Hi Sarah, a couple years ago I self needled with a diabetic lancet and used a roller I bought off of ebay( I learned  the hard way from my mistakes). While the needling did cause my individual scars to rise, because they were icepicks I only ended up with wider and more noticable scars. When I rolled with the roller I got off ebay, I ended up with small scarred holes all over my face.I had also applied retin-a on my face right after rolling so dont know if that could have had somthing to do with the poor turnout as well.

After reading your roller instruction guide there were several factors that I have realized made my experience turn out so bad. My technique was back and forth which I think left drag marks and since buying some of your single needles for my forehead eleven lines, I see that your needles are MUCH smaller in diameter than the ones on the roller or lancets that I used. I have since tested your single needles out on a wrinkle and had good success.I have been very nervous to try this again and am going to take it very slow but I think a stamp might be better in my case to avoid any possible drag marks.

My question is, does this sound plausible as to what caused my negative experience and would you advise avoiding stamping old icepicks that widened from the individual needles?

 My last question is I cant seem to find where to buy your Chloramine T solution on your webpage( I found it the other day but now it seems to be gone).I know you said not to use the 70 percent as it might loosen the needles and dont want to take a chance and I cant find where to buy ethanol or methanol .. it was a bit confusing and Id rather just buy your stuff.Thanks so much!

[SarahVaughter]

A diabetic lancet is not suitable for dermaneedling. A lancet needle is a small knife. Their purpose is to cut the very tough skin of the finger to draw blood for glucose monitoring. And they are shaped to maximise bloodflow, cutting sideways through the skin. This shape is unsuitable for subtle microneedling. Needles for needling have a conic shape with a very long taper and their length does not exceed 2 mm.  Dermarollers also have conically shaped needles.

Have you been on Accutane?  Most bad outcomes I have heard about happened to those on Accutane.

No, I do not think that applying A-Ret right after rolling contributed to your bad experience. We even have a customer who improved his scars by microneedling and immediate application of A-Ret cream:

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/evenly-spread-acne-scars/

A 1.5 mm dermastamp is better choice in your case than a dermaroller.  Also, in your case, you must do a stamping test on one scar.  Stamp one scar only for several months to see what happens. Sometimes thousands of people get good results or at least no problems with certain method and one or two get bad results for unknown reasons.

For example this lady ended up with permanently dilated pores after an IPL treatment:

https://http://www.owndoc.com/img/dilated-pores.jpg

Tens of thousands of people had an IPL treatment without any effect on their pores but unfortunately not her.

I am sorry but Chloramine T will not be for sale for a while because we have to test it for possible electrolytic effects on our OWNDOC dermarollers.  The current batch has titanium-coated stainless steel needles and there is a concern. Later batches will have stainless needles and we will start selling Chloramine-T again when we are certain it will not corrode any later/upcoming type needles.

Where to buy alcohol:

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/can39t-find-proper-disinfection-alcohol/

[truvision]

I havnt ever been on accutane before but I suspect that my poor outcome was due to a combination of perhaps improper technique along with needles that were way too big. I now see how stupid it was to buy a roller off of ebay, as like I said the needles were much wider than what your needles are.Unfortunately, I got my technique and knowledge of what to do off of a site where everyone pretty much goes by trial and error which led to my use of diabetic lancets. What you explained makes much more sense to me now for why those should never be used.I would like to report that I used your single needle on my forehead wrinkles and the results have been really fantastic so far. I wish I had known about your products from the very beginning. Im sure they would have saved me from much undo grief. Ill def order your dermstamp and test one scar. I suspect that the combination of no dragging and smaller needles is going to give me good results, I will just make sure to be more cautious this time.

Thankyou so much for answering my questions in such a thorough manner.I really appreciate your site, great products and excellent prices!